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East TN Lakers and Trout 2018 (part 3)

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That is interesting when I was there a week and a half ago we had 68 on the surface mid fifties was like 35 down.  If the Calderwood was generating that means wAter is coming from 180+ feet from the bottom which is ice water.  When I was at Calderwood talking to some anglers camping they were complaining the water being to cold with all the generation going in.  That is what they were claiming.  We put our feet inthe water at Calderwood and it was numbing.  

Did you shoot the temp with your fishhawk?   

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I didn't use my Fishhawk.  Chilhowee is the one lake where I thought I'd never need to use it.  I'm surprised that you had to go 35 feet down to hit the mid-50's.  Normally,  the mid-50' is about 4-8 feet down  in the lower lake, historically. Was your measurement at the dam? Most of the lake is less than 35 feet deep.  I thought about the Fishhawk on the way home as my mind tried to make sense of the warm water.

 

I'm still struggling to make sense out of 65 degree water coming out of Calderwood. Normally, Fontana's release water seldom rise above the low 50's. Fontana has generated off massive amounts of water repeatedly because of flooding fears. At one point, Fontana sluiced out one tube for a few days. Could it be that Fontana has run out of the really cold water this year...???  I'm having a hard time imagining any scenario where Santeetlah water and the warm, little Cheoah River could warm the Little T more than a scant, few degrees.  I'd like to know what the temp of Fontana's release is today.

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1 hour ago, Troutgirl said:

I didn't use my Fishhawk.  Chilhowee is the one lake where I thought I'd never need to use it.  I'm surprised that you had to go 35 feet down to hit the mid-50's.  Normally,  the mid-50' is about 4-8 feet down  in the lower lake, historically. Was your measurement at the dam? Most of the lake is less than 35 feet deep.  I thought about the Fishhawk on the way home as my mind tried to make sense of the warm water.

 

I'm still struggling to make sense out of 65 degree water coming out of Calderwood. Normally, Fontana's release water seldom rise above the low 50's. Fontana has generated off massive amounts of water repeatedly because of flooding fears. At one point, Fontana sluiced out one tube for a few days. Could it be that Fontana has run out of the really cold water this year...???  I'm having a hard time imagining any scenario where Santeetlah water and the warm, little Cheoah River could warm the Little T more than a scant, few degrees.  I'd like to know what the temp of Fontana's release is today.

Yes temp was taken near dam last point on right before dam.

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I know that spot. It's quite popular with the Smallmouth set. 50 degree water there should be no more than 10 feet down unless there's a drought or somethin' and Fontana isn't releasing much....and this should hold true in summer unless there's a drought. Under average conditions, all the water in Chilhowee will roll over every two days.  It's probably turned over even faster many weeks in the past several months. I hope that the 65 degree water was some kind of fluke and that the whole lake isn't 65 top to bottom.

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with warm weather sat went to watugua for the afternon dusk.  maybe get a walleye. cauvht 3 dinks one decent and 1 nice one.  plus a short walleye.  first walleye i ever had to throw back at watuvua.  wind was crazy.  white caps in 2 directions .  tornado like weather

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Thanks lakertaker. We fished jocassee in SC today for trout. Wasn't a bad. Rained for the first hour and then cloudy for the next few. Caught several fish. Tournaments start next Saturday. We'll see how it starts off.

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That's a nice Laker, TrophyLakerTaker! Was it over 6 pounds? I'm jealous. I've winterized my boat. I won't be going again till at least February.  How deep are the Lakers hitting presently?

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Went to the Hatchery at lake Cumberland and done some fly fishing while there. Never even fished for trout before. Had a Blast.... Nice fish you have there.

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On 12/4/2018 at 8:59 AM, TrophyLakerTaker said:

like 3.5 lbs.  very delicious.  didn't want to put that walleye back.  14 inches and was a real chunk, but glad to see some young walleye show up.  I thought it was a spotted bass since it hit a crank bait after sun set. 

 

The way you were holding that Laker made it look bigger. It seems like the average size is going down. Two years ago, when I finally began to figure out how to fish for them, I caught one over 8 pounds and one that went 7.4 pounds. last year the biggest one we caught, my buddy Captain D landed a 7'.5  pounder. This year, the biggest Laker was 5.5 pounds. I did lose what was likely a huge laker on a leadcore plug last spring. I must have had a nick on my leader line. It broke way too easy. Two big head-shakes and pop. I hope next spring is better on size. I caught lots of small fish this year. The releases mostly went well with a few exceptions....

 

I only caught two Walleyes all season. One at Chilhowee and a bigger 24" one at Watauga on the same trip when I lost the big fish. I wish I could find a plug they would hit with a little more frequency!

 

 

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1 hour ago, wbcmmc said:

Went to the Hatchery at lake Cumberland and done some fly fishing while there. Never even fished for trout before. Had a Blast.... Nice fish you have there.

 

Isn't that in Kentucky?

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Made an early morning trip to watagua sat before the rain moved in.  Caught Alot of small Lakers.  18 inch bass and a 17 inch brown on a Michigan stinger. at 40 feet on a downriver. Lost 1 decent laker because I was lazy with the net.  Thought bigger lakers may bite with the full moon or walleye, but fish did seem super active.

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I'm glad somebody is getting to fish and catch 'em! My boat is winterized. I wish I could go! When I see fish porn like that Brown I just go crazy wanting to fish. Is 40 feet about as deep as one would fish in winter?

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Hey there trout Girl,

 

about 70' is the max depth i think is good in the winter, and marking fish deeper, but seem like most active fish that will eat a trolled lure are 55' feet and above.   They range all over the depth in winter.  I'm sure you could tempt them deeper when they hovering close to bottom with live bait or vertical jigging, but most of the big trout ive caught in the winter are 40 feet to the near the surface on plugs.

 

Blew my left side bearings again on the way back last trip.  Luckily i keep everything i need to change bearings with me now. I replaced them no less than 1200 miles ago back in June. Always the left side.   So, right now my boat and trailer are up on blocks and I removed the axle. Somethings been off on left spindle for a couple of years, scatcheup bad now.  I am ordering a new axle and parts this week, to get back on the water in time for late winter i hope.   

 

 

 

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From your description Mr. 'Taker, that makes it sound like most of the bait is at 40 feet and up....? That makes sense to me. I'd love to get my boat out and go but I think that it's still maybe a bit too early. I keep it in my sister's backyard and have to drive over the grass to get it. I was over there today and it was maybe dry enough to get it out....for the first time in at least two months. I'm sorry your trailer has been so rude to you! I'm gonna hold back for a few more weeks....unless we get some more weather like the last few days real soon. There's only so much winter I can take!

 

I've got some new Yellow Perch colored plugs to try. There are Yellow Perch in most of the Trout lakes I fish, except Watauga and possibly South Holston.....??? I might try 'em in Watauga anyway. Lakers may have the instinct to hit delicious, petite Perch...??? Chilhowee is overrun with Perch lately. When the big predator fish grow back, they'll take care of the excess.

 

One of us needs to start a new thread for this year. I'm thinking of a new title like: Fishing The Trout Lakes 2019......

 

 

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On ‎3‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 12:54 PM, Troutgirl said:

 Was Watauga "groomed" to be a trout lake?

 

 

It was, alewife herring were introduced to give them a broader forage base, I believe this was in the 80's?

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I don't recall asking that question at this point. At this point I wish they'd stock Watauga with Yellow Perch. Lakers and other large predator fish love eating them and so do people. I found a 3" Redeye Bass in one of my Lakers. I've caught Yellow Perch in all, or nearly all, of the other trout lakes I've fished in Tennessee and North Carolina.

 

Chilhowee was groomed to be a trout lake back in 1957 when it was filled up. The lake was poisoned using, I think, Rotenone to remove all the undesirable fish, anything other than trout! Thankfully, that didn't work all that well. Enough of the native fish survived for them to come back strong and swim with the trout. There were all manner of fish in Chilhowee when I first fished it back in 1968. Those were the dark days of fisheries biology! I wonder if the same thing happened at Watauga back in the early 50's when it was filling?

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